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joethezombie

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Re: IIfx RAM
Posted: Jan 26, 2017 7:03 PM   in response to: fraveydank in response to: fraveydank
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Well that sounds promising, I'll be your first customer!
eschaton

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Re: IIfx RAM
Posted: Dec 27, 2017 10:27 PM   in response to: joethezombie in response to: joethezombie
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Wheres the line form? ;) I was just discovering how hard 16MB IIfx SIMMs are to find, now that I have one, and that even 4MB SIMMs are pricey. Id love to max it my IIfx, too, its a great system especially with an 824GC installed.
fraveydank

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Re: IIfx RAM
Posted: Jan 23, 2018 9:42 PM   in response to: eschaton in response to: eschaton
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Despite having had everything in hand for an absurdly long time, I haven't assembled more than a test build that didn't work, and I haven't gone over it to see what's wrong (could be solder bridges that are under the chip, could be counterfeit DRAM, I dunno). I'm trying to make 2018 my year to get off my rear and actually finish things for once in my life, so hopefully soon! I'll make an announcement once I've made progress.
fraveydank

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Re: IIfx RAM
Posted: Apr 12, 2018 9:01 AM   in response to: fraveydank in response to: fraveydank
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OK, well. I finally kicked myself in the pants and built up a dozen of the SIMMs. I cannot seem to find a set of 4 that will boot in the IIfx, though the soldering job looks OK; I guess it's time to build up a test rig. Fortunately, I took Doug's advice and got a rail of about 20 64-pin SIMM slots from the NOS dealer he recommended, and I also got some ZIF test sockets for the SOJ chips so I can also test them before populating.

Now I just need to build a board and figure out what I'm going to lash it up to... I'm inclined to use ribbon cable to hook it up to my Cyclone II dev kit, which has some convenient ports, so that I can actually test it at full speed. The PSOC5LP might also be a decent candidate, and I have a dev board or two for that as well.

Will anyone have interest in such a test board? It should be suitable for verifying operation of any IIfx SIMMs. I might add a logic analyzer port or two for my HP logic analyzer, though the Mictor board connectors are surprisingly expensive (and a PITA to route around).
fraveydank

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Re: IIfx RAM
Posted: Apr 12, 2018 9:21 AM   in response to: fraveydank in response to: fraveydank
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Also, I finally figured out why my IIfx wasn't making sounds: the speaker itself was dead. Curiously, it's a 32 ohm speaker, which seems to be pretty hard to find, but I had an 8 ohm PC speaker handy that was the same dimensions and had the same plug. It sounds OK for now, I'll have to do some more testing later to see if the sound gets really distorted at high volumes.
dougg3

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Re: IIfx RAM
Posted: Apr 16, 2018 12:26 AM   in response to: fraveydank in response to: fraveydank
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Hmmm, rats! I hope the chips you bought are OK. Just FYI, someone on 68kmla also built some IIfx RAM using my design and succeeded, so luckily someone other than me has verified that it works now :-)
fraveydank

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Re: IIfx RAM
Posted: Apr 16, 2018 12:31 AM   in response to: dougg3 in response to: dougg3
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I have no doubts that your board design is sound! I don't know about the chips, thus the desire for a tester, but I do notice that when I load the bigger SIMMs in, the RAM test takes correspondingly longer. That basically tells me that I don't have useless counterfeit slugs, but it doesn't say whether they pass QC; The tester I have in mind should be able to test individual chips with the test socket (so I can test before assembly) as well as testing SIMMs for normal failure modes (bad bits, bridges, etc.).
wanbuilder

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Re: IIfx RAM
Posted: Apr 13, 2019 10:02 AM   in response to: fraveydank in response to: fraveydank
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I would purchase 8 or 10 unpopulated boards from you to try. I do a lot of board level repair/surgery under a microscope, so I would hand assemble them without paste. The chip spacing looks like I could easily assemble them with my fine tip iron. I have the KM41C16000K-6 FPM chips, I would just need to get some SMD caps. Alternatively, I wouldn't mind having a try at seeed. I uploaded the gerber file to them and it seemed to price 10 at ~ $5. But I'm sure I would need to set some other parameters to get real pricing. Did you ever turn this into an online project? This might be a good Tindie project too.

Thanks

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